User talk:BemusedProjection

Hey thanks for the help on the pre-release pages for Morrowind. I have been pre-occupied with other things so I haven't had as much time to work on them. Glisp (talk) 00:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

No problem! I'm more than happy to help. I still have more content to add, and I appreciate your help in fleshing out the images I've added so far. Thank you! BemusedProjection (talk) 00:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Renaming of files

Hi, please don't go renaming files unless absolutely necessary (i.e. the filename doesn't abide by the naming guidelines.) You had renamed some files to make very slight changes to the name e.g. TES4IconDestruction.png (the original name was correct to the original file.) It helps with keeping track of files to not rename them unless necesary. --Escape209 (talk) 23:47, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I will amend my edit habits appropriately and stop renaming files unless needed. BemusedProjection (talk) 23:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

File:TES4IconAlternation.png, File:TES4IconAlternationSpell01.png‎ and File:TES4IconDestructive.png‎ were affected by this. Rename them back to their original file names since that's what they're named in the files. And revert this change in the Unused Icons subpage. --Sgt.McHale 00:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

I've reverted the changes to the Unused Icon subpage, my apologies for editing on an assumption. I do not appear to be able to easily revert the naming of the files for File:TES4IconAlternation.png, File:TES4IconAlternationSpell01.png‎, and File:TES4IconDestructive.png‎. Trying to move the page back to the original destination does not work. Do you know of a method, or do I need to contact a mod to move the files back? Thanks. BemusedProjection (talk) 00:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Well frankly I don't know, I don't even know how to use talk pages properly. Perhaps the mods have the power to do that. --Sgt.McHale 00:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

As a Friendly Heads Up

Never convert Jpeg images to Png and upload them to this wiki. That's just one of the rules we have here. It doesn't fix the quality and all it does is uncecessarily increase the image's file size. Thanks! Oh also I moved the information about Hugh Riley's stuff as well as the Icons you found on Bethesda's site to the pre-release page in a new subpage. Anything not found in the game data should be put in the pre-release page. )with the exception of using the pre-release material to compare with something from the final. Such as say a model found in the data of the final and there's a pre-release screenshot showing it in action ingame, That's when pre-release material can be put on the main pages.) Since most of these came from a codex entry on Bethesda's website, and haven't been found in the Morrowind.BSA, they belong on the pre-release page. Same with the Hugh Riley stuff. Someone actually DID find that there's an unused prototype icon for the water breathing spell. Oh also, the icon for the Morrowind Interactive Demo exe actually uses an early version of the fire damage spell icon (or weakness to fire. It could actually be that due to the little symbols off to the side.) so might be worth putting on the pre-release page as well. You can find it on the uesp wiki page for the interactive demo:https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Morrowind_Interactive_DemoGlisp (talk) 17:27, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Glisp, I appreciate you letting me know, and I've started to adjust my behavior on converting .jpgs, as seen with this developer group photo. The wording in the Image Help Page was a bit confusing, as the number 1 rule states "No JPEGs." I realize now that this is referring to the conversion of raw images by contributors, though I believe this wording could be adjusted slightly to be less confusing. Maybe something like "No JPEGs for original content" or something of the sort.

I appreciate the heads up on the Interactive Demo page as well, both of these disks were the sources I used when uploading the character renders here.

I've spent a bit of time digging through old Forum archives, and have found posts that would be an excellent addition to the Morrowind: Development page. During early development, Argonian and Khajiits were classified as "creatures" in the Construction Set, and they were not originally going to be playable.

Quoting Todd Howard:

"Remember, this decision is two-fold, one dramatic and the other technical. The resources WILL come with the game to make it possible to play an Argonian or a Khajiit (and they do appear in the game).Details on the character system will be coming in the near future. Once you hear more about it, some of the technical problems with these two races will be apparent. Even when they are turned on in the editor, at this stage they will not work as cleanly as the other character races because of their body styles."

Feel free to add that to the Morrowind: Development page, if I don't have the chance to add it before you do. I know there are more comments and interviews with the developers from pre-release that specify that they were considered "Creatures" in the CS, but I will need to take a look around my archives and find the posts again. If you're interested, I would also recommend looking around the archive of the old forums, as well as a later, official archive of the forums first hosted by Bethesda themselves. The Beth devs spent a lot of time replying to users there during the development of the game.

I appreciate the collaboration and responses you've provided, and I look forward to continuing to improve Morrowind's page and it's sub-pages with you. Feel free to contact me any time! BemusedProjection (talk) 23:03, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Adding descriptions

You don't have to add a description to every single file used by an article, mainly because these files are in the watch list of those who uploaded them and I don't think anyone would want to get bombarded by notifications of edits like these. It's not necessary too. --Sgt.McHale 16:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

I haven't made an edit in over a month, and even longer since I've added a "description" to an image file. Considering this, and that you are the only one who is complaining about it, I do not see any "bombardment of notifications" by other users whatsoever. Not to mention, adding descriptions and information to provide context for images added to TCRF is only *improving* the knowledge on the site. Nah, sorry, I don't think that this advice is worth following.

"Some of the editors here are pretty cancerous with their lording and mundane disputes, self-centered pricks I guess." Look in the mirror, buddy. BemusedProjection (talk) 14:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

You edited every single Oblivion icon I uploaded, and I got a ton of notifications on both my Gmail account and on my edit list. I forgot to bring it up when it first happened, but better late then never.

Not to mention, adding descriptions and information to provide context for images added to TCRF is only *improving* the knowledge on the site.

Yes it's true, but said descriptions and information are usually added on the page that uses these icons, not the icon page itself. By that logic we should just dump icons on pages with nothing written on them, one would need to open the icon file to learn what it is for.

If there's some interesting information and trivia that doesn't fit the page which uses these files then they may need context, but when you simply take the file name and paste it in without the "_" or "-", you're just unnecessarily bringing in extra work for you and spamming the watch list of others.

You're not even adding where the file can be found, if it was at one point used by the game, or if it does appear in some prerelease image. You know, stuff that could, and I quote you, provide context for images, actual context and not just taking the file name and slapping it somewhere. I would appreciate it if you actually edited these files to add them to categories, it would've helped me and I would've thanked you.

I came here respectfully with no intention to harm or insult, yet you seem to be offended by what's written on my userpage. I'll have you know that line I wrote predates your oldest edit, it's not directed at you. Rather at some people who did actual harm to TCRF.

And most importantly, remember what's written on top of talk pages. Assume good faith. --Sgt.McHale 20:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

You were already quite rude and demanding when the Oblivion icon mishap first occurred. I can read my own user page up above, friend.

Coming back to rehash a topic that has been settled and completely irrelevant to current editing, as again, I haven't made an edit on this site in over a month, is just rehashing a tired, finished conversation.

Your demanding attitude when I made a common mistakecombined with the fact you thought it appropriate to start another dispute from the same incident months after this all happened is not acting in good faith.

Kindly, leave me alone. BemusedProjection (talk) 02:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

I can read your userpage too, I don't see myself being "rude" or "demanding" anywhere. Unless you consider being told to undo your changes to be something bad? Or maybe an offense?

I'm not here to "rehash a topic that has been settled" or start disputes either. You're being hostile for no reason, that's not the right attitude for someone giving you advice on what's appropriate/not appropriate. Nobody's making demands here, I don't recall forcing you to undo your changes. I just hope you don't do it again in the future (You know, slapping the file name thingie which doesn't add anything of worth in all honesty). And frankly I don't know why you're bringing the "icon mishap" because that's not why I'm here in the first place, I can only assume you completely ignored what I said about editing files, maybe consider re-reading it again? I haven't broken any rules or even insulted anyone for you to brush me off like this.

You completely ignored the reason why I'm here. --Sgt.McHale 02:34, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Your entire persona has been one of confrontation and negativity from the first time I interacted with you. I do not want your advice.

Leave me alone, please. Lording over people and doing what you're doing now is helping no-one. Have fun on TCRF! BemusedProjection (talk) 02:39, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Well, if that's how you see the whole thing then fine even though I didn't want things to escalate like this. I would say sorry if I actually wronged you, but I think this is an elaborate charade to avoid criticism. Anyhow, have a nice day. --Sgt.McHale 02:47, 25 April 2025 (UTC)